Why Web 3.0 Must Take PRIDE in Celebrating Pride 365! Panel: Jones, Riley and Austin | Episode 229

Episode 229 - Why Web 3.0 Must Take PRIDE in Celebrating Pride 365! Panel: Jones, Riley and Austin

Today is International Pride Day and we’re insanely blessed to have the opportunity to speak with not one, not two, but three AMAZING humans for today’s podcast.

Three incredible humans, one great conversation that will hopefully not only educate but inspire you to take action and help lift up others in Web3

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Jones (she/her) https://twitter.com/Jones_QF_NFT

Most Academic/Scientists in the Web2 world, Founder of QueerFriendsNFT in Web3. She helps lead the project amplifying the voices of women, genderqueer and LGBTQ+ friends and providing them with community, education, representation, and opportunities in web3. She tells us how a simple haircut led her the realization of how powerful representation and the ability to unapologetically be your true self can be.

Jones talks us through how her and her team are ensuring all walks of life are represented in the QueerFrens NFT project and gives some amazing advice on how to become more of an ally in the space outside of the month on June.

Riley (she/her) https://twitter.com/rileybeans_eth

Community Inclusion Coordinator with BFF, a project consisting of 100+ female and non-binary leaders across crypto, tech, design, business, and more. Riley believes the community is absolutely paramount to making everyone involved in Web3 feel included and is a perfect example of someone who leads by example, showing up daily across multiple social platforms, and speaking in Twitter spaces and conference panels across the country.

She is a driving force behind BFF’s PrideFest which has helped increase and drive conversations around the LBGTQIA space. She believes listening to people is the most important part of being a community builder and being able to assess where people are currently is the only way to get to where we hope to be.

Austin (he/him) AKA “Super Gay Dad” https://twitter.com/austnplz

He is the Co-founder of Galactic Gaylords, an inclusive project looking to bring authentic voices to NFT space and build an entire Galaxy of amazing humans. He recently quit his day job as an engineer and is diving head first into Web3. He loves that the space allows you to lead conversations with your values rather than your credentials.

He’s hyper-focused on acting on the feedback from those not only in, but outside his community as well saying, “If you’re not listening to your community, why are you even building a project?” He isn’t just talking the talk, but he’s walking the walk as well. He and his team are offering project resources to help start and drive conversations in their Discord servers.

He tells us a little about his upcoming project and the challenges that can come with building a team representative of the full LBGTQIA community.

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We just want to spread that diversity and awareness in web three and create safe spaces everywhere. - Austin, aka @SuperGayDad, Creator, Galactic Gaylords NFT

We just want to spread that diversity and awareness in web three and create safe spaces everywhere. – Austin, aka @SuperGayDad, Creator, Galactic Gaylords NFT

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Episode 229 – Why Web 3.0 Must Take PRIDE in Celebrating Pride 365! Panel: Jones, Riley and Austin

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Episode 229 - Why Web 3.0 Must Take PRIDE in Celebrating Pride 365! Panel: Jones, Riley and Austin

Kevin Sturmer 0:00
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Brian Fanzo 0:43

Welcome back to another episode of NFT 365. And on this beautiful day, and it is international Pride Day, for me, you know, the beauty of building the community and the following that I’ve been very blessed to have created over the last almost almost 10 years, which makes me feel a little bit old, as you know, the day that for me, that was my aha moment that most most of you are aware of. And what some of you might not be is that you’re on November 2 2013. My mom actually, surprisingly enough, called me out and I’m a proud mama’s boy, very openly admit about being a mama’s boy. And she’s like, Brian, I don’t I don’t see you wearing a hat on your social profiles and everything seems forced. So you being yourself online. And I will say I kind of laughed. I remember telling my mom was like, Mom, you don’t know, social media, like get out of here. What do you talk course I’m being myself on. And I hung up the phone, and I remember. And I just kind of sat you know, in my office, and I was sitting there for a while. And I’m like, I think my mom’s Correct. Like, I think my mom’s right, I was trying really hard to not only portray something that I was not, but I was like overthinking and over analyzing everything and was trying to say, Okay, what do other people want from me, rather than just kind of saying, you know, what, I’m gonna be myself and kind of show myself out there. And it’s actually why if you guys ever see that bracelets on, you know, I’ve been wearing that for a long time, it just says Be yourself. And the beauty of that is that day is when my personal brands and my kind of social footprint kind of took off, you know, I’m a spinning example of, you know, showing up as your whole, you know, unapologetic self, the power, it can lead, but it also will, you know, sometimes turns some people off, I remember the first time I mentioned that I have tattoos, and I just happen to have my my daughter’s names tattooed on my chest. And I remember I lost a client that month that just said, Hey, we weren’t sure how we wanted to be associated with someone that was putting themselves out there. And and, and sadly, that was that’s also just some of the, you know, the risk and the things that exist. And the good news is it about six months later, they came back to me to come back bring me on as a client. And they kind of looked at a lot of the things that we had as a new opportunity. And so for me since that day, part of the beauty of growing an audience and being an early adopter is really using my platform to hopefully amplify just great people that are doing great things and you’re in for a treat. Today, I’m gonna bring in our guests here on little quad view for those that are watching on video. For those that are listening. In audio, I’m gonna have them introduce themselves real quick, but it is international Pride Day I like to think of this episode. As you know, love is love. And really the idea of what web three can do to help us not only celebrate, you know, the fact that we are all human, and the fact that we can really make an impact but also empower your voices and conversations that for far too long have not had the voice that they’ve they’ve needed to have across the board and so excited to bring in each one of our guests today what we do have three guests, which I know is a little bit different for the podcast, but I think that’s going to be part of the fun for this episode. So with that being said, Jones I’m uh, I’m going over to you first give a little intro talk to us a little bit about who you are and, and your project and we’ll go from there.

Jones 4:05
Hey, friends, Happy Pride. My name is Jones I use she her pronouns and I am one of the cofounders of Queer Friends NFT. And we are really just a place for like minded in kind humans. So we really want to amplify the voices of women gender queer and LGBTQ plus members, but we’re also a place for our allies and the LGBT the friends and family of LGBTQ plus youth. So as long as you’re a kind and loving human, we would we’d love to have you as part of our community. Thank you, Brian for having us here today and thrilled to share the stage with Riley and Austin.

Brian Fanzo 4:44
Excited to have you here and yes, if you are not a kind and loving human you can pretty much just unsubscribe now I don’t really mind if I lose you as a subscriber. i The world has plenty of space for those that are not even operating from that place to To begin with, but excited to have you here at Jones as well. Also we’re operating you know, last names, I feel like we got the the last names going down here with being able to kind of put ourselves out there that way. So excited to talk more about queer friends as well been interacting on Twitter for a good while and love the community that you’ve been building, Riley, I will jump it over to you would say you.

Riley 5:20
Hi, I’m Riley, my pronouns are she her and I am the Community Inclusion coordinator at BFF. BFF is a space for women and non binary crypto curious people to onboard themselves into web three. Billet being a community builder is really important to me to help people feel a sense of belonging in the space. And it’s really special to me to be a part of web three and what we’re doing here.

Brian Fanzo 5:52
I love it, love it. And my BFF is definitely one of the leaders in the space, leading the way in many, many forms as far as great community great NFT project leadership, overall impact. So I’m excited to kind of pick your brain a little bit on that on that role. And also, I’ve been following on Twitter and I love your perspective on a lot of trending conversations, you add, oftentimes a sense of perspective that maybe is missing from like just in my feed, and I end up liking a lot of your tweets. So I promise it wasn’t stalking it’s, you know, I’m a fan of what you put out there to the world rarely. So thanks for being here. And last but not least, known as super gay dad mentioned on the podcast a couple of times over over the last 200 Plus episodes. As someone active in our community, I got to actually meet Austin, in New York also got to meet a little bit of the team there on his project. So, Austin, over to you what say you.

Austin 6:46
Yeah, thanks, Brian. So excited to be on this podcast to chat with you. It’s something I’ve wanted to do for so long, and your intro was awesome. Like when we get the chance to be our authentic selves. It’s just so freeing. So I’ll jump into my intro. I’m Austin, I go by Super Gay Dad in web three. Or if you’re in our Discord, I also go by daddy. I am the co founder of Galactic Gaylords, which is an inclusive project for LGBTQIA. Also for allies, and we’re really looking at bringing authentic voices to web three, and going for the storytelling aspects and building a Super Gay galaxy with all of these authentic stories.

Brian Fanzo 7:28
I love that super gay Galaxy i and you’re the art. I got to meet the artists. What’s the artists name that we give a shout out?

Austin 7:35
Yeah, his name is JF but he goes as Mr. G on his socials.

Brian Fanzo 7:39
Yeah, Mr. G, I love the art. It’s, it’s like, you know, it just it stands out. It’s like beautiful and loud. And, and it kind of it’s one of those things I think the beauty of, of web three is it not only allows us to have conversations, but it also allows us to put some things in feeds and start conversations. And we’ll get a little bit more into that as well. Riley, I wonder go to you first. You know, you mentioned community ambassador with my BFF. You know, as far as you know, when you look at the web three space and giving a voice for not only pride and gay but also non binary, right. I think when I first got in the space, one of the first conversations I had on a Twitter space was actually from a mom that was asking about what projects have non binary representation in them. And it was something that for me, I will I will admit, and this probably won’t be the first last time on this project on this podcast episode that I, I admit, I was like, I didn’t it didn’t dawn on me that there wasn’t representation there until was brought up. But ever since that day, it’s dawned on me every single project every single time I look at, but then also where projects can kind of expand, right? I know, my BFF some of their initial language they’ve even adopted and changed. So could you give people just a little bit of like one of your thoughts on like, web three growth, as far as embracing not only LGBTQ plus AI, but also like, where this kind of whole conversation can go with, you know, the power of web three?

Riley 9:06
Well, I would say that, you know, a lot of my friends in real life and like, previous partners have been non binary. And it’s really important for me to enter the space and make it a place where those people who I know, and I have experienced their lived experiences can feel comfortable in whatever community I build, right. So so so the presence of non binary people in BFF and other communities that I’ve been in is is really important to add that sense of belonging for others who may move around the world differently than then then cisgender folks, you know, as far as making making the space open, I wish that more non burning of People felt comfortable in these spaces and felt more welcomed. So that’s what I think we, as the people here are trying to do, you know, to make people you know, have a space where they do have that voice, that sense of belonging, right. Everybody needs that, that home on the internet, I believe.

Brian Fanzo 10:27
Yeah, I couldn’t agree more. And I think that, you know, not only, you know that home, but also being able to, you know, to be able to have something to represent, I think part of the the beauty of we can talk about, you know, being anonymous, versus not anonymous, but you know, a lot of that allows people to start to get their feet wet on telling their story and putting themselves out there without having to fully, you know, Doc’s themselves and take on a know, a lot of that additional pressure. And I think that’s a beauty of this space, but only if we kind of, you know, allow that to kind of go in in kind of both directions. Also, I’m curious from your side, right? Super Gay Dad, when it came on my radar originally, I’m like, Well, you know, loud and proud. And he’s definitely not afraid to kind of put it out there. How have you looked at kind of the web three, kind of acceptance. And I know for you, when we first started chatting, you kind of have a foot in both worlds. And then I got the message that you’re like, Hey, I’m going all in on this space. Talk to me a little bit about how that journey has been for you. And really just the acceptance in web three, and where we can kind of go from there.

Austin 11:25
Yeah, of course. So let’s just chat about first of all, my name super gay dad, web three is so cool that it gives us the opportunity to define ourselves based upon our interests and our values, as opposed to web to where you usually lead first with your credentials. So you touched on it, I fully jumped into web three, I quit my job as an engineer two weeks ago, I was an engineer for 10 years. But I really see the power in this space and the power in community building. And in the web two world, I found it very difficult to build communities because there wasn’t a common thread, usually, like I come from E commerce. So it’s really tough to find that common thread. But in web three, you really already find that in these NFT communities, because they’re based around a central theme already. So for me, I started out as five years ago as a bit of a gay dad blogger. And then I jumped into a little bit of YouTube, and I really felt my connection with the queer community. And I felt that I was making a difference. So I really wanted to carry that forward and bring that into this new digital space.

Brian Fanzo 12:31
I love that. That niche and also like, kind of that empowering piece, right, that element of being able to not only put the story out there, but also changed a little bit of the conversation, you know, and bring it across the board and you’ve been very active in our, in our community and supporting the podcast in our Discord as well. And, you know, I think there’s it’s a beautiful aspect where we can kind of merge some of our worlds and Jones I’m curious

Brian Fanzo 13:02
but about, like, the overall mission of the project, and, and kind of how that’s coming to life as far as what you what you guys are working on.

Jones 13:10
Absolutely, yeah, I think that, you know, everyone touching on representation was just so important. You know, I personally, I had sort of this experience, just just right before COVID, where I, I shaved the sides of my head, and I was rocking this kind of like pink pop thing going on. And I gotta tell you, and I went to Vegas for my best friend’s 30th birthday. And I felt amazing. Like, I felt so good in my own skin. I was like, Yes, I’m all about this. And then I came home. And I went to the Navy base, where I’m an academic and a scientist. And I felt so uncomfortable in my own skin, something as simple as my hair cut, which 24 hours ago, I felt amazing in suddenly I felt very self conscious. I didn’t want anyone to comment on it. And I wished I had my my sort of long hair that I could hide behind back. And I think that this particular experience right before COVID and coming into web three and getting my feet wet. One of the things I was excited about with web three was that I could be both of those things I could express myself and represent all of the different aspects of myself and be comfortable. I could rock long hair and a PFP as an avatar, if I wanted to in this particular setting, I could rock my pink pomp that at this particular party in the metaverse, you know. And I really think that representation and being able to sort of be whoever you are, whoever you want to be in that moment is so powerful. And so when we didn’t really see the PFPs that were representative of sort of that whole Gender Spectrum, that became a real priority for us, and we really want to sort of translate that into into avatars. And I think that one particular group that I’m trying to talk about more that we may not be thinking about as much are the people that sort of fall onto the gender spectrum that either know that but haven’t had the confidence yet to really put a word to it or come out is that if you, that’s what you need to do. But also the people that maybe don’t even know that yet, right, we still identify as cisgender. But they’re coming into the space. And I can’t tell you the number of people that have reached out and said, just seeing representation, meeting people that identify this way, just being around a community where it would be okay to ask questions and make a mistake. And I think there’s a lot of people that are sort of being able to discover their most authentic self. And so I think that opportunity is just really beautiful in web three, and something that maybe I didn’t see the project being able to do, but I’ve been really excited about.

Brian Fanzo 15:49
I love that, you know, I think that like the the idea of what web three can bring to life in some of these conversations, like not only what we can individually represent, but we can even amplify right for me. And I know, I’ll kick it back to you, John on one of the things you kind of brought up because you I will say as a as a sis white male, that is very loud advocate not. And I will say, you know, my story started at 14 years old, and my best friend came out to me, and she came out to me at 14 didn’t come out to a single other person until she was 18. I went to her junior prom as her date. I went there as a senior prom as our date, both of our dads at the time, assumed we were gonna get married, it was literally like everyone else’s thing. And still my best friend to this day shout out to Ashley, I was lucky enough to be ordained to marry her and her wife, and kind of like, bring that whole thing to life for me. And I remember 2003 You know, I graduated University, with Ashley and I got to be the grand marshal of one of the parade that were going on during pride month. And to me, it was so empowering as an ally. And but I also feel like I kind of cheated the system a little bit because as the ally, I had the best friend that was there and was calling things out and being Brian, don’t you see that this isn’t there? Or, or why this is why you need to use your pronouns not because yours pronouns are different. But it’s because it’s starting the conversation and normalizing it and, and a lot of that came to me early on, and I’m very blessed for that. But in the ally ship conversation, I still get messages, I actually got a message, I think Austin, it was from a photo that you and I had posted, and it was from a fan of the show. And they just simply were like, I don’t want to get like the pronouns wrong. I don’t want to miss representation by being an ally, probably like, how are you doing it? Right. And I and I, and for me, I do feel a little bit like I cheated the system. But I also feel like, for me, I’ve been very blessed to be welcomed in a lot of these conversations. Jones, what would be your kind of advice or thoughts on like, for those that want to be even a louder ally? What are the things that they can think about? And do and how can we kind of get over some of them that have fear of like making a mistake or stepping into something that maybe they’re not used to handling?

Jones 17:59
Totally fair. So I would say first and foremost, if you’re worried about you know, making mistake, you’re leading with respect and kindness to begin with. So find some people in the space. Definitely my my myself and my team being one of them that you feel comfortable to reach out to. As long as you’re leading with kindness and respect, we will help you guide you will gladly be there for you and welcome you in. Obviously, doing your own research is important to not put the entire burden on the on people in that community. But on the flip side, like I always am an advocate for asking someone for advice, as opposed to asking Google. So I would say that in terms of being an ally in this space, and thank you for what you’re doing and taking that opportunity that you had to learn at a younger age and being able to help spread that, you know, that education and and support other people as they want to be allies. But I would say there’s a few sort of actionable items that I think we can do. You know, first of all, June is about to be over. So if you saw the endless tweets that were highlighting the LGBTQ plus members in web three, that’s amazing. I hope you follow those people and now you know who they are. So now think about from July to May, how can you genuinely help? How can you uplift How can you amplify as opposed to just having, you know, Twitter spaces where you invite those people to talk about diversity and inclusion and their story about being queer. There’s so you know, the queer community has such incredible knowledge to share resilient voices, you know, bring them on panels to discuss everything. I’m gonna talk about marketing, I want to talk about development. Let’s talk about those things, bring these people on and hear their voices on all topics from July to May. The other thing I would really encourage you to do is if your project your platform like like you’re doing right now, Brian, you have built this amazing platform and following. If you have an ability, especially for you know if that doesn’t cost you a lot to be able to give a utility from your community from your platform or a connect So if you just have, you know, this connection, someone you’re friends with, that you think could be helpful to that person or that project, make that connection shoot a DM saying this is sound. So this is sound, so shoot an email introducing them, right? Maybe you can, you’ve created some sort of security PowerPoint for your community to keep them safe. Can you offer that to, you know, galactic Gaylords, to offer to their community free of charge, a few NF T’s so that people can have access to your community that might have been priced out, there’s a lot of opportunities where you can really be a genuine ally in the space, not just staring June.

Brian Fanzo 20:39
I love that and definitely not just here in June and, and, and Austin, you know, I, you and I’ve had that conversation, even what you’re gonna be able to bring to I, you know, our Discord. You know, one of the things for me is, you know, I’m also a very loud mental health advocate. But having a mental health channel for a mental health channel purpose, just because you want to check a box serves no purpose, and in my personal opinion, oftentimes gonna do more harm than actual good. And I feel that way, in a lot of the conversations that were that we’re seeing in web three. And I think it’s a good step with some people kind of making a step at least acknowledging and saying, Hey, I need to be more aware. But I think taking it a step further. And Austin, I know, it’s something that you’ve kind of prided yourself on pun intended, that, you know, on kind of activating some of those channels and other discourse, can you share what, that’s kind of all about? Awesome.

Austin 21:23
Yeah, of course, it’s some of the things we’re looking at doing for collaboration. And actually, just one sec, I want to like snap for Jones, everything that she said was amazing. But some of the things we’re doing is we’re just asking big projects to create a channel on their discord for LGBTQIA. That’s it. And if they are having troubles getting it started, or they think that they might be afraid to use pronouns, or might offend some people, we’re offering to get one of our members to go in there and mod it for a while and get it up and going. Because really, we just want to spread that diversity and awareness in web three and create safe spaces everywhere, whether it’s in our server, or it’s in someone else’s server, it really doesn’t matter, we just want our voices to be heard, I

Brian Fanzo 22:09
love that I love that you’re doing that. And Riley, I know my BFF definitely has gotten a lot of publicity, a lot of attention, rightfully so. But I also know that that attention and that it also can kind of shine an even bigger spotlight and even maybe a little bit more pressure on doing things that kind of set the bar to share some of the things that you know, my BFF is doing and even some of the things that you’re passionate about, kind of like seeing implemented in the space to hopefully Empower allies, but also drive conversations in some of these more siloed, you know, even discords

Riley 22:41
You’re right? It is a lot of pressure with the amount of publicity and and eyes that are on BFF. But it’s also really exciting to and one of the things that I specifically did recently with BFF was I created this pride fest, which was an all day long, almost 14 hour, Twitter space, and, you know, inviting other communities and community members into our space, to share their stories and their expertise. So that not only the BFF community could hear that, but so others can be invited in and listen to these people as well. You know, listening to diverse voices is really important. And listening to voices like Jones, who was part of that space as well, what was really important, actually really fun.

Brian Fanzo 23:33
Yeah, I love I kind of like that rallying together. And I love the idea of doing that, you know, beyond even June, right? I think it is, it is a nice thing. I feel like now at least, you know, June has really been identified as Pride Month, like in everything from sports to, you know, everywhere there, you know, that kind of goes. But I think there’s there’s also that conversation that like, how do we drive that forward. And you mentioned Twitter spaces, like I, I, for one, know that I sit in a lot of Twitter spaces as much as I love to talk most, most will know if there’s a Twitter space going on. And I can support by simply just being in the audience, right listening along. And just showing you my bubble being just one bubble there. You’d be amazing how little, just something little ones that can help, you know, I’ve had, you know, the amount of damage that I’m getting, like, thank you so much for supporting and like for me, it’s like, it is like kind of the bare minimum, but yet it’s such a kind of easy space to kind of bridge upon. And I’m curious, you know, Austin from what you’re doing with your project, talk to a little about your project. And then you and I had a little heart to heart in New York on it. Like for those that think about web three, it’s a lot of moving parts. You have to grow a team that you know, an artist, a developer, a marketer, a founder, you have to be able to write smart contracts, adapt, you know, to let’s face it discord, which I don’t care who you are until Discord is it can be a nightmare, but it’s even harder when you have a niche community but then you want to have you want to have your team made up of people that believe and are part of it right and I find it hard even in in a larger, much larger niche trying to find people that are aligned with my values. Talk to me a little bit about that, because I love that you’re committed to doing so. But I also know that’s probably just going to add another layer of like more research and more trial and error to kind of build your team full of those that are kind of all bought into what you’re doing.

Austin 25:19
Yeah, it’s definitely way more difficult. But we do want those authentic voices. When we started the project, it was just me and my artist, and we’re two gay men. So we can really only tell the perspective of a gay man, that’s all we can do, we can’t step into someone else’s shoes. So as we continue to grow our team, we want to be able to put voices within our immediate team that can resonate with other people that are part of the community. And at times, when you’re using agencies kind of like we are right now for our development, it’s hard to get them to see the vision and the long term goals of your project because they’re hired for a service. So really getting those members that resonate with your project and your vision and your future goals is essential for the long term growth of a project, in my opinion. And then we can also bring those other perspectives in.

Brian Fanzo 26:10
I love that. And I think it is more difficult, right? I think. And for those that are listening, right, I think this is also a great opportunity. You can be a connector, right? If you know people in your network that you believe, hey, they will align great with this project, or there’ll be someone that I know can speak to that maybe they’re not even in web three yet. But you know, they have like the developer skills or the marketing skills or PR side, like that’s, I mean, you’re talking about a great ally opportunity is connecting, like using our network using not only our audience to amplify, but anyone using our network to bring some of these conversations to life. Riley, I know I might have snooped your open seat just a bit. And I actually, I’m kind of that I love seeing what was in people’s wallets. And you happen to have, you know, lots of different diverse projects and you also have an expansion Pronk, an expansion pond project that is actually part of our collection here at NFT 365. And we minted that back on December 12. And we were very blessed. You know, we were it was still minting at the time. And through the random generator, we actually minted one of the 1% non binary identifying X punks, and I remember talking to Jeremy about that I now own multiples of those myself, just as not because they’re rare, but as an opportunity for me to give out or to, hopefully onboard at one of the ones that I had, I actually gave to a really close friend of mine, that for me, it was a great opportunity to share, you know, representation. But I think for a lot of projects, and a lot of people that you know, they not only do they want to have like the discord channel, but they also want to make sure like their art is representation, in a sense that it’s not polarizing. We’re not going to get into like the conversation that happen with board a yacht club, but at New York, because that’s a whole nother piece of it. But what are some of the things that you you’ve seen, be able to see or identify in projects that you feel like, hey, they get us they understand the gay community and the ability to kind of represent even even if it doesn’t mean that every every project has, you know, equally divided representation as far as male, female and non binary

Riley 28:22
I don’t know I personally really love expansion punks because of their story, and what they stand for. I’m actually one of their ambassadors as well, the ampere ambassador. It was it was really special to be nominated, and to be to be included in in their, their team there. It’s it’s difficult because, you know, with the male and the female, NFTs, and the PFPs. You know, I don’t know it’s, it’s, I haven’t been like, I don’t know that I have a real real answer to that. Because

Brian Fanzo 29:07
I think part of me like so I’m advising some projects right and, and part of it is like the for those that don’t know, the expansion punk story actually interviewed Jeremy way back. And in December of this, it feels like years ago. And I love that they looked at the original punks and said, Wait a second, the male female dynamic is completely off. And non binary representation does not exist in the original punks. And so much so they even went and said, Why do females not get hoodies? And why is when a female has a hat on, they’re only frowning and they went that far in to make sure the art was kind of a true expansion of that collection. And to me, it was so eye opening and like, wow, we can really approach things a little bit differently. But I also feel like the idea of just like being aware of that right is a big piece of it and I’m curious Jones for with what queer friends is doing and like the idea of you know, only identifying and represent I think but also welcoming in allies into that community. How do you think of that the art? Or how are you guys approaching the art and even the messaging that you’re putting out the kind of, I think, because it’s almost your leading teaching, and you’re being an example all at once,

Jones 30:15
I appreciate that we’re trying certainly not perfect, but always, always open to feedback. But one of the things that we sort of started with was that we didn’t come in with the art. So we actually asked all of our early community members as they came in, what was something that was missing from PFPs, that you would feel really represented by, and we got very broad answers to very specific tattoos and, and things and that’s sort of how we kind of came up with our feature list. So I’m, I’m excited about that aspect to like, genuinely represent our community. And then the other sort of idea that we had was, at first we were thinking, okay, like, maybe we’ll do some queer celebrity, one of ones that are going to be mixed through and what do we really started to, like, revisit No, like, what’s our mission, our mission is to really make these people feel seen and feel represented in our community. And so what we did was to Genesis drops of one of one custom NFTs, where we created the queer friend of that person, how they felt represented, whether that was how they outwardly looked IRL, or how they wanted to be represented. And then all of those features are going into the generative collection to try and make them feel seen throughout the PFPs. But the main goal is that then all of the PFP features and characteristics will be translated to avatars. So those are just some of the ways that we’re we’re trying, but there’s a lot of hard questions in there that you don’t realize until you start getting into the art, like, what features shouldn’t be combined together, what should be? And what sort of percentages do you have? Do you make things more rare to make them quote unquote, more valuable? Or do you want them to be represented, and therefore, you make a lot of that feature? And it’s, it’s a very gray area, and we’ve had a lot of hard conversations regarding it.

Brian Fanzo 32:06
Well, I love that it’s, it’s not any easier for you than it is for us, because we’ve had that conversation as well with some of the projects that I’m working with. And there is part of that it’s like, wait a second, I don’t want to make this the one that the whales put into their cold storage, and are the ones that nobody, you know, puts out there. And in a way, that’s why for me expansion punks was like, I know at least if I’m holding them, I will represent them in every way I can they’re gonna be part of our collection that we sell in November and, and like, but I feel like that is an interesting kind of subsection and an Austin. You know, the other part of this is you’re growing, I believe a web three community is the hardest community building dynamic there is right? B, you have to you have to be able to welcome in web two and a web three, you have OGS and natives, crypto flippers, all of us, de gens, you have people that want to like jump in it, maybe it’s their first, you know, NFT. And then you also have like, this whole world of like, how do you continue to build and grow? layer on top of that you’re niching down, right? You’re niching down? Not only you have, you know, it’s the galactic Gaylords. But you’re, you’re from a standpoint of, you know, identification of male PFPs. Now, you’re really niching down, how have you kind of looked at that from a community perspective, and also manage your expectations, because I feel it’s very easy to compare, like, women led project to this project, you’re like, wait a second, we’re not playing in the same sandbox. And let’s face it, the onboarding in every demographic right now is nothing. That is easy. That is something that anyone can do. So talk me a little about what you’ve felt community building there, Austin, and we’re how you’re kind of approaching that.

Austin 33:40
Brian, I have such a strong opinion on this. If you’re not listening to your community, why are you even building an NF T project, you have to be willing to pivot and change your viewpoints. I have a story for you. Actually, in NFT, NYC. We talked to a bunch of people there people loved it loved the art, we had a drag queen there, we were taking selfies with it was a ton of fun. But someone came up to me privately and said, I’m an ally. And I’m not sure if I am allowed to join your exclusive LGBTQIA project. And it really took me aback because I, in my mind, and maybe this is a misstep for me. I feel like the web three world is technology adapters, usually more open minded and more willing to accept projects like ours, but we weren’t clearly communicating that so we had to have a team meeting and kind of take a step back and really align our art with our vision. Just like Joan said, it’s really difficult to get that balance rights. But with us only really having male representation. We weren’t being true to our vision. So it didn’t make a big decision to push out our mandates. We’re going to include some more one of ones just to make sure we can represent more body types. We’re going to include more of the female attributes, we’re going to include more trans attributes, because we want to make sure that we’re doing it right by the project and right by our community. And like I said, at the beginning of this, you need to listen to your community, and you have to be willing to change. And in the famous words of you, we is greater than me, right?

Brian Fanzo 35:16
That is so true. And I just want to give kudos to the person that pulled you aside and said that to you, right, for all those that are in this space as well, right? Like it when you when you feel like that, letting people know, I mean, like, it’s easy to assume, Oh, Austin, and Jones and Riley, they’re 100% aware of what it was, you know, someone that says is coming in. But until you’re voicing that maybe that is the magic that opens a lot of these doors, and never once and this is just my experience, you know, as an ally for almost my entire life. And I feel very blessed. If I’ve come into and said, Hey, I want to be a better ally. Here’s my question. And here’s my scenario, not once, in my entire life, if I’ve been shut down, have I been told, like what you Google something, if you can, if we can present it that way, I think that’s such a powerful thing. And I will also say every founder listening to this, what Austin just shared is important for every project, right? Adapting and learning and, and also realizing that a lot of the early projects in this space, they didn’t, they didn’t represent that. But it’s also one of those things like, there wasn’t people kind of calling it out acknowledging it. And it’s not about saying, hey, they were 100% wrong, and let’s blame them and shame them. It’s saying, hey, they came in set the standard, but let’s reset the standard to something that we can kind of, you know, move forward. And Riley, I’m curious, your take on that as you’re not only in the space, but you know, you’ve been on some panels and have some really, you know, I think exciting conversations, but also how do we like your bring the conversation to the a broader audience because I, I feel, you know, we can say mental health, I have a mental health conversations, only attracting people that identify as having mental health concerns, we’re missing, the greater good, right. And I feel like that can sometimes happen in some of the panels or conversations that are happening. And I will say, it’s partially why for me, I drag my straight friends into into some panels, and I’m like, don’t worry, you’re gonna learn a lot here. And we’re gonna kind of bridge that gap rally, how do you look at it look at that as like, making sure that you not only allies are participating, but also that projects that are maybe niche down, still understand the importance of kind of amplifying their message? Well,

Riley 37:24
I would say that as we bring more people into the space, as we bring more people into our communities, we’re gonna see people who are yes, part of our community, but may disagree with what we’re doing and may have different lived experiences. And we have to, you know, like Austin said, adjust to those and and, you know, really listen to people and where they are, like, you know, listening to people is the most important part of being a community builder, I believe, you know, being able to hear what people are saying and where they’re coming from is, it is important to not only see where you’re going to go as a community, but to see where you’re at currently.

Brian Fanzo 38:11
Yeah, and I think that, like that assessment of where you’re at currently is probably one that too many are skipping over. Right. And I think that’s partially, you know, part of the conversation as well. Jones, I’m curious from, you know, unfortunately, you know, I mean, I think of, of my personal bag, women led projects are my favorites. And it’s not because they’re women led projects. They’re amazing projects that happen to have a women leadership. But we know that sometimes becomes like a thing, like, like, we don’t want to label them. And if I look at like my bag, and I look back over the last, you know, year and a half that I’ve been really active in the space, there haven’t been a lot of projects that I would consider are gay led, or have a team that is out that is putting it out there, what would you look at as I kind of been a barrier to the spot, because I think for a lot of people, it did a lot of this makes sense. But when we look back, it still takes a lot of risk. You’re putting yourself out there, you know, and also for a lot of allies that are out there that maybe they’re opening a conversation in their own household that they haven’t had before. And weirdly enough, this JPEG that people like to call starts a conversation. What what do you think, is kind of like maybe the cause for not seeing as many projects prior to and then what is the kind of like your thoughts on like, you know why? We’re just going to step forward and lead the way and more gonna come with us?

Jones 39:28
Yes, absolutely. I mean, I didn’t come into this space expecting to launch queer friends, web three brand, I came in wanting to be a collector or trade or be part of the community. And I initially found the women in web three sort of community as an in general and I was really moved by how collaborative and welcoming generally that they were. But then I was looking for my queer friends. I was like, where’s that other side? You know, that I? I want to connect with them with the same vibe with and I I couldn’t, I couldn’t find it I, I would find people and I was like, Ah, another person, like, you know, hold on tight. And a lot of artists a lot of creatives, which I think is expected, but I couldn’t find that community. And so I think if you, you know, if you can’t find something, you try and build it. And that’s what we’re doing. And I think what you’re saying is spot on, right? When we sort of developed this niche, women lead projects in general, you know, they have less support than a man founded project, the mid price tends to be less the floor price tends to be less, the volume traded tends to be less, right. So now, let’s knock that down a peg, whether you know, to a queer woman founded project or woman of color, founded project, et cetera, that just continues to get smaller. So I think, like, for one, like an awareness of that and saying, You know what, this isn’t, this isn’t what we want, right? We all this is what we’re trying to avoid with web three, we want to build better, but we’re already there, we’re already doing the same things, repeating the same patterns, the only way to break that is to support financially support, use your platform to elevate and amplify those projects. So it doesn’t happen again. And I think that that’s sort of, you know, really important, I think there’s a lot of people that are that want that, but they don’t really know how to how to go about it. And so there tends to be a lot of like, alright, I’ll follow on Twitter, I’ll kinda I’ll retweet you once or twice, but then when it really comes down to buying or purchasing or supporting goblins, you know, like, it’s a there’s that kind of mix and no shade to the goblins, because they’ve got, you know, filled a niche here that people needed this entertainment that super happy for them. But you have to really think about that in terms of what are we really putting our money in supporting? Are we walking, are we walking the walk that we that we’re saying we want to do?

Brian Fanzo 41:54
And let’s face it, web three, it’s an action transparent world, right? Like, we there’s been plenty of the space that this world has talked about being an ally, being a fan of friend, we can prove it now. And approving it is stopped using your gas to mint free poop projects, save the gas and support projects that you believe can make an impact. It’s a pretty as simple as that. Right? There’s, and, and when I, when I see that, on this side, it’s like, the more not only more of the same, but it’s like the talk, we know, it doesn’t work like we, and I and I’ve shared this before, but like, not until the murder of George George Floyd, did I recognize that, like, I was being silent in many areas of my ally ship, I was just being silent, believing, hey, my actions and how I operate was good enough. And George Floyd brought a whole world to me, that was like, Okay, I will no longer allow myself to be silent. We’ve seen that recently with, you know, the horrible decision the United States just made, and now kind of that kind of, you know, disrupted a lot of the conversation. But I feel like this is also a great example of way to have strong opinions, and have them, you know, the, you know, that phrase, like strong opinions loosely held, and the loosely held part is more of the fact of being willing to listen and learn from all sides. But being strong advocates by, you know, not only minting one or minting two, but making it your PFP. And, and I will say like, I’m one that probably has a a female identifying PFP more than I do a male identifying PFP just because my passion for the art that I love. And I’ve had people come to me and be like, well, how does that work for you? And I’m like, well, it’s very easy. I have my pronouns in my bio. And then besides that, I’m like, this is an opportunity for me to, to put this content out there. And so it’s not just retweeting and sharing, but I do feel just for those, like no service announcement for everybody listening, no matter the market Bull Run, you know, we, the cost is zero gas, zero, to amplify, to retweet, to share to celebrate, even if you can’t meet on a project, talk about why this project is great. And if you could, if you had the eath to have it, you would have meant that project. I think that’s such an important conversation to have. And I really don’t feel like it’s an excuse anymore in this space, that if your actions mean I can look at the blockchain, the blockchain doesn’t lie. I can literally tell Are you do care? Are you an advocate and ally? Or are you just someone that is all talk and kind of, you know, kind of surface level and we’ve seen what web two and surface level kind of conversations kind of give us and I just wanna say all three of you, I thank you for your leadership. I love that you jumped at the opportunity to come on here. I’m gonna give each one of you a chance to share one last thing with our, with our audience for all those listening, all of their information will be in our show notes. If you follow me on Twitter, you’ll see their content because I love amplifying the content and and the things that they’re putting out. So I’ll go kind of in reverse order. Austin, you went last last time. So Austin, I’ll kick it over to you first, give us a little bit timeframe on your project and then any final words you have for the hands.

Austin 45:01
Yeah, of course. So we’re at GalacticGaylords.com, you can go to our website, we are pushing out our mandates. We’re not sure where it will be yet. But we want to make sure we are being very inclusive, like we had talked about earlier. I just want to thank you, Brian, for having me on the podcast here. I’ve been a longtime listener, and it’s just really cool to chat with you in person, especially about something that I’m so passionate about saying it was great to meet you too. Jones and you Riley.

Brian Fanzo 45:26
Love it. I love it. And we’re connecting dots and, and making an impact. And this won’t be the only time we’ll have plenty more of these types of conversations happening as well. And you know, I appreciate the sport, Riley overdue?

Riley 45:38
Well, it was so great to be here with you all. Jones amazing, Austin, you’re you’re an inspiration. You know, being being part of web three as a trans woman and a lesbian is really interesting. And a lot of ways and being being part of BFF as a community builder is is really an important place to be in. If you if you are interacting with with people who are diverse individuals in web three, please do your best to lift them up and support us whenever we whenever you can.

Brian Fanzo 46:20
I well said and couldn’t agree more. And like I said, you’re a great follow on Twitter. I appreciate your candor. And what you add to this space as far as not only context, but also amplifying others great ones, or we oftentimes a tweet will show up and I’m like, Oh, who retweeted that. And that’s how I got into my feed. So I appreciate all that you bring to that space as well. Jones, last but not least over to you.

Jones 46:43
Yes, just thank you so much, Brian, you’re walking the walk in terms of how you can support and amplify and it really it doesn’t go unnoticed or unappreciated. Riley, Austin, thank you for everything you’re doing in this space. I’m so grateful to be here with you both. And I guess I’ll leave with one sort of thought, you know, Brian, you shared at the beginning your story of your best friend. And that’s sort of how you became an ally. And I think we get that story a lot, right? We get a lot of people coming up saying, Oh, my uncle is gay. My best friend is gay. My daughter is gay. And so I guess my question for you is, if they were in, you know, Riley, Austin, myself, or any of the LGBTQ plus people trying to find their way in web three, if that was that person for you? How would you want them to be uplifted? What opportunity? Would you want to see? What kind of support would you like to see them receiving, and see if you can give any of that back to those people. And I think that that’s what I would, I’ll kind of leave you all with today. But Happy Pride, everyone.

Brian Fanzo 47:41
I mean, that’s, I mean, such a powerful perspective. And, you know, I will say like, you know, that’s actually partially why that aspect of my story doesn’t always the part that I lead with, because I, I also understand, like, I was very blessed that I’ve been able to be in this space. And my best friend kind of opened my eyes, I mean, we sat in Catholic church together, every single Sunday for about 10 years, and me being the only one that was able to, you know, squeeze her hand and let her know that, you know, we were on this journey. And, and, you know, and to me, like, part of that is the conversation of not only what can we do for your loved ones, and amplifying the great, you know, people in the space, but also recognizing that, you know, within every culture, no matter how niche, or how, you know, dynamic, there’s also just the same problems that exist everywhere else. And that, you know, just assuming that just doing the bare minimum or a little bit more than what we’ve done in the past, is going to make an impact is not enough, right. And I, I look at that, as you know, I want to be a better ally, myself, and I am far from from perfect. And I, I often look at, you know, scenarios and say, you know, for me, I have three daughters, and I’m very blessed. My daughters, you know, and ash, they, they were very lucky enough to, you know, include her in her life and her wife and, and I look at opportunities for that even just bringing these conversations into that space as a dad, as well. And I’ll just challenge our listeners, you know, thanks so much for listening to this episode. My challenge is really, you know, it’s great having these conversations during pride month. It’s great having these conversations, when you have amazing leaders like this, that I’ve gathered around today. But I think the real work happens when conversations are happening when it’s not pride, and maybe they’re not represented. And maybe a thing is something is brought up where representation is brought up. And you have the chance to speak up and say, Hey, what about non binary or what how are you represent representing the sexual orientation across this? It’s those moments when it’s not that all everyone’s listening? It’s not because there’s a rainbow in the title. But it’s because those are the moments where we make an impact. Those are the moments where if each of us take those each opportunities, it can be the dinner table, if we could each just take those small opportunities and step up to the plate and add perspective. It’s not telling people they’re wrong, because let’s face it, we know how that divides a world in a country. But I do look at it and saying, Hey, here’s a perspective Have you thought about this before, and I really think in web three, we can each take that mantle on ourselves and it fits into this mantra of we are greater than me and, and I feel better as a better we because I’m surrounded by you three amazing leaders as well. And so for all those listening, this is international pride pride day. So if you check out that hashtag over on any of the places that do hashtags, lots of great content being shared around the world on movements and and you know, praise and conversations that are are happening and and let’s face it, I wear rainbow pink and and pride 12 months a year as well. So excited to hopefully open some eyes and bring some people in some new some new projects. So until tomorrow, my friends, make it a great day. Cheers.

Kevin Sturmer 50:50
This show is not financial advice, so do your own damn research.