David Bianchi: Don’t Quit Before the Miracle Happens! Creator of Spinema NFTs | Episode 234

NFT 365 Podcast - Episode 234 - David Bianchi: Don't Quit Before the Miracle Happens! Creator of Spinema NFTs

Prepare yourselves for a serious dose of motivation and we welcome David Bianchi on the show as today’s guest.

A classically trained actor who holds a BFA in Theatre from Arizona State where he carried lead roles in multiple main stage shows and graduated Magna Cum Laude.

The man behind the “I Can’t Breathe” poem you may have heard on ClubHouse or watched on tv and the creative mind that spawned several amazing community-driven projects in Web2 as well as Web3!

Learn all about his back story and what brought him into spoken word poetry which would later lead to him creating the term “Spinema” (spinning cinema through the spoken word) Hear how the blockchain created consistency and self-sufficiency that Hollywood could never provide 

David has a good heart, is INSANELY passionate about his work, and has an almost chameleon-like talent that allows him to adapt to any role…to any circumstance. Hear how open mics at coffee shops kept him alive while he made his dream of being a professional actor a reality, and a creator recently nominated as the top 100 in the NFT space.

Find out how he’s leveraged his experience creating art around social consciousness to create an NFT project celebrating human consciousness while he educates non-profits on the benefits on the blockchain.   “Don’t quit before the miracle happens!” This is one of, if not the most inspiring interviews we’ve had to date!

More about our Guest and NFT 100 Winner David Bianchi

David Bianchi is a multi-hyphenate artist, actor, filmmaker, and spoken word poet based in Los Angeles. While he has made a name for himself in a wide variety of creative fields throughout the years — including studio films and major network TV — with NFTs, he blends together each of his passions into his very own art genre called Spinema™.

The poetic-cinematic experiences he crafts with Spinema™ have led him to become known as one of the most unique creators in the NFT space; one that aims to elevate socially conscious issues via blockchain technology.

From his multi-part film NFT series’ to his multimedia collaborative collections, Bianchi continues to push the boundaries of what intellectual property can be immortalized as NFTs.




“Your perception will always remind you Which sounds ring true.”

You can't quit before the miracle happens. - David Bianchi, Actor, Artist, Creator


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Episode 234 – David Bianchi: Don’t Quit Before the Miracle Happens! Creator of Spinema NFTs

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NFT 365 Podcast - Episode 234 - David Bianchi: Don't Quit Before the Miracle Happens! Creator of Spinema NFTs

Kevin Sturmer 0:00
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Brian Fanzo 0:45

Welcome back to another episode of NFT 365. And we are sponsored and powered by the Crypto Business Conference, Crypto Business Conference, come on board. It’s a conference that I’m very proud for NFT 365. To be one of the media partners. It is actually in beautiful San Diego, California on October 9, through the 11th. It is put on by the team, Social Media Examiner who happens to also put on the world’s largest social media event known as Social Media Marketing World, which I’ve actually spoke out for the last seven years in a row. And for me excited to have them on board as not only a sponsor of the podcast, but also you know, we’re gonna team up and you’ll be able to see me on stage we’re gonna do some fun things with them. So make sure you guys check that out. It is crypto Business Conference. And I’ll make sure to share the notes and the links for that in the in the show notes. Now, with that kind of being said, and when we think about just this idea of creatives, you know, one of the things that I love about web three about the blockchain is you’re removing the technology and really allowing us to amplify and connect great people that are doing great things, right. And, you know, one of the things that, you know, my mom likes to remind me of this, you know, I wrote in my high school yearbook when people would say, like, you know, what, what is the thing that you care about doing most in life. And I had a simple phrase, it was like, I want to connect great people with great people to do great ship. That was literally what I wrote in my yearbook in 1999. And high school yearbook. And the beauty of it is that’s really what this entire medium of the blockchain web three is enabling us to do. And today, I have one of those great people here with us. Not only talented, not only TV star, but also talented, creative, and really a leader in the in this space of web three, and we’ve been able to share a lot of Twitter spaces together. But David Bianchi, thank you so much for joining us here on the podcast. Give people a little bit of a preview a little intro of of who you are, what you’re all about, and then we’ll jump into the show.

David Bianchi 2:47
Sure. Hey, man, thanks for having me, man. Yeah, we shared some good Twitter spaces together. I’m glad to be connected, proud of what you’re doing, and definitely about moving, you know, moving the engine forward for web three. You know, you talked about connecting great people and I’m happy to be connected to you. So for anyone that doesn’t know, my name is David Bianchi. I’m an actor, independent filmmaker. I’m globally known as a spoken word poet as well. I entered the NFT space in March of 2021, when I meant to the first ever award winning spoken word film as NFT. So what does that mean? So for the better of 17 years, I’ve been producing high concept short films, told entirely in poetry that are high cinematic, so sometimes deploying 20 to 30 person crews, original scores, I mean, nominated directors award winning cinematographers, etc. So I’ve been doing this for very long time out of my own pocket living in Hollywood and working through Hollywood, go to March 2021, when I meant did the first cinema film, so I trademarked the brand cinema, Spinning cinema through spoken word. And as a result of that, that piece was acquired by the team that bought the $69 million Beeple. Forbes covered the story was a piece called I can’t breathe and I donated 100% of those proceeds to the George Floyd Memorial Foundation. So social consciousness, social impact philanthropy, these are all parts of the undercurrent of my work. And since then, I’ve probably become you know, one of the lead one of the leading socially conscious artists in NFT’s but also one of the leading multimedia artists in NF Ts. I’ve mentored several of these films, raised 10s of 1000s of dollars for nonprofits through my work. And you know, have been curated at Art Basel curated at Dreamforce with Time Magazine and Metaverse curated at NFT NYC the first ever in real life a gallery created by SuperRare in Soho at the Shanghai exhibit in China. So my my crypto artists has really been kind of showcase in some really, really high level places and I’ve been blessed to be collected by some of the most important collectors in the space including metal coven. G money. Krista Kim, Pranksy mon duar, NorCal guy and some some really other sophisticated collectors. So yeah, and I’m happy to be having this conversation with you and talking about the creative side of NFT’s and not necessarily the tech side, but they kind of kind of run in tandem, don’t they? Yeah, they

Brian Fanzo 5:12
kind of work they work nicely together. Right. I think that’s the kind of the, the beauty of that, you know, I think just the set that stage do you right, like, if you check out your IMDB page, right? Do you have worked on many shows that I personally were big fans, we were talking about that a little bit pre show. You’re currently. What’s the show? You’re currently on hiatus for right now on Peacock? What’s the name of that show?

David Bianchi 5:31
Sure. Yeah, I’m on a couple I just did a recent recurring guest star at NCIS Hawaii. And then I’m currently recording on a major on a major show produced by Amblin entertainment, which is Steven Spielberg’s company, and universal productions called resident alien that’s led by a great guy named Alan Tudyk. It’s the number one show on Sci Fi, but now is available on Peacock as well. And we’re actually in the second season break. So I think in the next three weeks, the second half of second season is going to come back. And then you know, knock on wood third season, we’ll start shooting again in December. So on that show, I play a character named Goliath, who is basically Alan Tudyk is an alien and the character that I play is the only other alien from his race, living on planet Earth, in the body of a human being so nice, pretty nicely tethered into the narrative. And, you know, it’s really exciting to to continue to be a self sustaining artist, because that’s really what we fight for. Right? And that’s what blockchain has afforded me. You know, I’m very transparent about my story, right? I got my screen actors guild card in 2004. doing extra work. Well, I came to Hollywood with a theater degree believing Hollywood was waiting for me. But oh boy was pleasantly surprised that they were not like, they didn’t give a shit about me. Like, I was a waiter. I was a bartender for 15 years, I slept on an air mattress. I had cockroaches in the kitchen, you know. I mean, it was gnarly, man. I mean, that was just my existence, you know. But I always believe in attacking the island and burning the boat. I never came to LA saying I’m not going to become an actor. I always said I am an actor. This is what I do. While I’m making that cocktail for you, I’m an actor, I’m becoming an actor. To me, this is just my wax on wax off, right? It was basically building the resilience, right? Because we hear all these horror stories, whether it be in crypto art, or whether it be in Hollywood, or whatever it is, people give up too soon, you quit before the miracle happens. You can’t quit before the miracle happens, ladies and gentlemen. And the other thing I hate is when I talk to artists is they say, you know, I’m gonna go to Hollywood, I’m gonna I’m gonna try this acting thing, fucking go home, go back to Ohio with the rents cheap and get a dog get married, have you know, get 1.2 kids or whatever it is. As soon as you say you’re going to try to do something, you failed. Because you’ve created a subconscious degree of scarcity. You told yourself that you’re just going to try, you didn’t tell yourself, you’re going to do it. And so as a result of that, regardless of what it took, I was gonna keep doing it. And then now fast forward the blockchain. You know, Blockchain really created self sufficiency for me as an artist, in a way, honestly, in a way that Hollywood never really did. Because what blockchain has done for me? Is this created consistency. Right? Hollywood can’t really offer

Brian Fanzo 8:24
Yeah, not even not even your plate off. Right. And, and you mentioned the spoken word side, right? We’re gonna get into the cinema conversation as well. The other part of this that I think is really interesting is like, when we think of like, artists removing the starving from the starving artist, a lot of people’s first notion just goes to art itself, right, as in paintings or something, you know, physical and I think we’ve had some musicians here on the podcast, that I’ve really know what they’re able to do with NF T’s has been pretty amazing. But when you think about like your career as an artist, did you always kind of identify as a as a spoken word artist and the actor side? Or like, where did those two worlds kind of play in? Like, I’m very blessed. Like I grew up in Virginia Beach through high school, and I tell you that the very first spoken word live of that I went to it’s one of my like, there’s a there’s a name drop that I don’t get to, I don’t think I’ve actually ever flex that on this podcast. This guy named Pharrell Williams, people might have heard of him, literally in Virginia Beach. It was a event hosted by timberland and Missy Elliott, who grew up right in the same area as I grew up, and it was a spoken word, conversation. I remember going there. Not really even sure what spoken word was I felt like I was very naive to the concept and being blown away, of course, Pharrell becoming Pharrell? That was from that side. So I’m curious to talk to you a little bit about like that piece of it because what you’re creating you’re you’re kind of tapping into the actor, director spoken word side, and just that overall artists appeal. Give us a little bit about like that background and your kind of creative journey. Sure, man,

David Bianchi 9:53
I thank you for thank you for telling me your story. That’s incredible. You know, we always love the Genesis story, right? That’s We want to hear you want to hear the Genesis. I’m an artist first. Like I painted my first watercolor or acrylic. I think in like second grade my mother still has it framed on a wall somewhere. It’s like a riverbed. It’s really bad. But then I was already writing poetry in my head before I knew how to grammatically write with a pencil, right cat hat, this that baseball bat. You know, I just liked the the percussion that it created, you know, and growing up, you know, in the late 80s, early 90s. I’m dating myself. I you know, it was like, it was like Fat Boys and Run DMC and Eric B. And Rakim. And, you know, it was really the golden era of hip hop. So that was sort of like, like rap music was just hitting the airwaves, the commercial radio airwaves, but it was popping up in TV commercials, for example. So I was tapped into the rhythm of words. And then that got me into being like a battle emcee as I was growing up in upstate New York. But I moved to Mexico City when I was a kid. And then I lived there for five years. And that’s where I learned to speak Spanish, and so on and so forth. But my first time on stage as an actor was in third grade, and I played Captain Hook and Peter Pan. They painted the mustache on me, I had the little hook on my head and everything you know, but I go back deeper than that in second grade. In America. Before I moved, we used to act out TV commercials for each other on the swing set, and the neighborhood. So I was doing improv before I knew what improv was. I say all that because I’m an artist. I see the world through colors and temperatures and textures, right. And so, to your question, poetry was always the underlying theme who I am, Art has always been the driver of who I am. It just happened to manifest itself in terms of performance, right. And so through high school I was always involved in in high school, theater, and so on and so forth. And then as a battle MC, which is also performance, so on and so forth. I ended up going to Arizona State University where I graduated top of my class there. And while I was there, I started getting involved in slam poetry and slam poetry is competition poetry, so there’s like spoken word that was created out of the Harlem Renaissance. And then there’s slam poetry, which was birthed in Chicago, which is competition poetry, which is created by some white beatnik poets out of Chicago, I think, was include mill, I think I remember, remember correctly, but nonetheless, I started realizing that holy shit, like, I don’t have to be a thug or a gangster to be able to like drop lyrics, right and do something that it’s exciting. So the term spoken word, for example, from a branding perspective, makes sense. But I tend to like shy away from that a bit, because every word is spoken. So what makes me different from somebody else? I like to call it performance poetry. So like what you experienced with Pharrell probably blew you away, because if you put him on mute, you’d still be able to experience a physical catharsis through his physical form, because we’re blurring the lines between poetic because you can read poetry and it’s not compelling, right? But you can perform poetry and it’s fucking compelling, right? And so, what to get us where we are now. So I was producing poetic slam events. And then, in 2004 2005, I produced my first film that was made from poetry. Me and this guy, Daniel J. Pico is called soldier I played 16 festivals all over the world, we won a bunch of festivals, I was really blown away, because for 500 bucks, we made this, this this super creative film that did really, really well and got critical acclaim. And we use the poetry as the script. And so it was really experimental. But that was the beginning of cinema. And so when I was trudging Hollywood, you know, getting rejected left and right, trying to get the agent trying to get this and that trying to book my first commercial. My first speaking role in general hospital where they even cut me out. You just heard me off camera for crying out loud. And I was bartending. You what kept me alive, was the open mic. A lot of actors have the stand up comedy scene. A lot of actors will have improv Groundlings Second City. For me, I had the coffee shop. So when I was waking up on Monday, like depressed and shell shocked from the weekend, I had Wednesday to look forward to. I had to I had open mic, so it kept me alive man just kept me alive. And so over the course of 17 years, I continued to produce independent film and I forged my knives and I got the Hattori Hanzo steel. And, you know, just got really good at what I do. And, and the the idea of cinema sort of birthed itself about 10 years ago, because as I started to scour the internet, I realized that nobody in the world was doing what I was doing. Treating poetry, like full on productions. And that’s when I came up with the the moniker spinning, spinning cinema through spoken word. And so I’m very uniquely, um, you know, because I’m very uniquely qualified, being an actor, being a filmmaker of being a poet, but also being a performer. And my final thought on this is that I’ve learned through producing these films that you can make a great actor, a good poet, but you can’t make a good poet a good actor.

David Bianchi 14:43
Right, because poets as you know, that we reach for the back of the room, right? But when you’re, when you’re creating a cinema film, you’re actually working with a camera that’s like right here. So the lens is this close. So you have to be able to be understand the nuances of performance, as well as the ability to deliver poetic verse.

Brian Fanzo 15:04
That’s such an interesting cross section I, you know, I relate a little bit that to like the speaker versus YouTuber, right like I’m getting something as great as a as a public speaker, motivational speaker on a stage. A lot of them are atrocious as as a YouTuber, right? Like talking to a camera understanding like some of those dynamics. But I also want to tie it back like, you know, first of all, you have the fork you that is you. You know, my daughters all were born in Arizona. I like to say I didn’t go to ASU. But I paid a lot of money to ASU because my ex wife, ex wife got her Master’s. They’re both my brother and my sister in law, undergrad, we lived out there in Queen Creek area, season tickets to ASU. Football for seven years. So big fan. But you also mentioned top of your class, you were like, Matt, you were Magnum komati. Is that correctly? You were literally top of the class. I mean, you kind of bury that lead, right? I think it’s so funny how that, like that’s a I mean, that’s a powerful statement and testament to what you were kind of working towards. But you also mentioned before, like, you jumped into Hollywood, it’s not like all of a sudden they’re like, Okay, you check that box, check that box. Here’s your TV show. DAVID Right. And so you’ve, you’ve been the scrappy guy, you know, ever since. But I also just love your, you’ve mentioned throughout each one of those stories and like finding out how to make yourself different, like what part of you is best to deliver the piece that you’re talking about? I’m curious, where do you get that from? Like, where in your background life you mentioned, kind of some of the moving? Do you know where you kind of tap into this like, commitment to realizing that you can be great, but being great and being able to stand out in your own way. It’s kind of like that magic sauce cuz I can see it. It’s threaded in your experience love to just know where you think that came from?

David Bianchi 16:46
Sure. Well, I appreciate the observation is very kind of you and shout out to Arizona State. And that theater program really, really nurtured me because I wanted to come to Hollywood. And I didn’t want to be another pretty boy with a headshot I wanted to understand the mechanics of performance, like from a voice and diction perspective, from a physical language perspective. I want to know, you know, all the academia around theater that I could absorb, but also perform on the main stage. You know, I remember, let me just digress. Like I was a knucklehead when I was a kid. And this is public information. I was expelled from six high schools. Like I actually got a G D in the local strip mall in upstate New York. So we’re talking about we’re like, David, if you come back to this campus, you’ll be arrested for trespassing. I mean, so I don’t. So that. So when I say that, and then you look at a guy who went to Scottsdale Community College, because Arizona states that you can enter on academic probation, you have to get two classes and pass the 402, enter. I knew what my purpose was, when I went to Arizona State, I had had a lot of troubled stuff, move through me, I’ve had some dark places, and so on and so forth. You know, I knew what I wanted to do. So I got into Arizona State on academic probation, and then graduated with a 3.96. And I remember when I was a telemarketer in upstate New York, trying to figure out how to move to Arizona, I had a printout of the of the mainstage theater, the I think it’s called the Galvin stage and Arizona State and a pin to my cubicle. And every phone call I made I said, I’m becoming an actor, I’m going to play on that stage, I’m going to play on that stage I looked at every single fucking day, I’m gonna plan on stage ended up playing on that stage in leading roles three times in front of a 500 person house for long theater runs. And so, you know, I say that because it’s important that people have to understand that you have to set the intention for the mission. And whatever happens in between is whatever happens in between, that’s just the process to getting you to where you ultimately want to be and what you want to become. But you have to be able to create the vision of who you want to be within yourself so that you have an internal roadmap of what the follow. Yeah, as I said earlier, I want to attack Island and burn the boat, you know. And so, the other thing that you mentioned is greatness, right? And there’s the there’s a distinction between greatness and mediocrity, right? But the distance between greatness and mediocrity is your perception. So how do I see myself? How do I see the world? So I always I often use this example, if you look at the checkout clerk at Ralph’s. If he walks into that store, he gets that application. He’s excited to get that job, but he knows in his mind, body and spirit, he wants to be a general manager, how’s he going to check out those groceries, he’s going to show up, you’re either early or you’re late. There’s no such thing as on time, right? So he’s going to be early, he’s going to check out those groceries to the best of his ability. He’s going to communicate with people in a friendly, concise manner. He’s going to show up his clothes is going to be ironed, he’s going to be creases and ready to go. In other words, he knows he’s a manager before they know he’s a manager. And he carries himself as such so that when people around him see who he is, as a human beings, they understand his managerial material, even though he’s only checking out zucchinis and bath and boxes of cereal. And that’s how you have to approach your life. Yeah, you have to carry this on you every single step of the way, and not everybody is built for this kind of stuff, right? Not everybody is built to be an entrepreneur. And I love that the thought of, you know, the Good is the enemy of the great, right? You’ve probably heard that before. As soon as I allow myself to be good, and other than wrong, there’s a lot of guys that own houses and have children and have great jobs and pay the bills and pay their taxes. Essentially, they’re all good. And they get drunk on the weekends, they watch football and they kick back, they got the recliners are good to go. Right. But then there’s the great people. Right? There’s a big distinction that as soon as you settle for anything good, you have slammed the door on your ability to be great. Because being great isn’t always popular. Being great is stressful being great is is is burden carrying, you know, so it takes a lot to be able to figure that out. Now to your final question, where did it come from? I have no idea. I just don’t know. I’ve always loved creating things. And as I’ve gotten older, I’ve loved to lead with inspiration. And I like leading the charge, I received that responsibility with a sober focused mind. And, you know, I’ve always been an entrepreneur, man. I mean, back in 1995, I was throwing outlaw raves in warehouses, you know, with a police scanner, and I met a map points and picking ravers up in school buses, and from the school bus, take them to the warehouse. And so I was always sort of like entrepreneurial, you know, in my mind, body and spirit. So,

Brian Fanzo 21:27
I mean, so, I might have been wrong, because I think every person who is listening to this right now can feel your passion, your mission, your drive, right. And like, I feel like that’s also one of those rare qualities that you know, for me, it’s like, it’s a blessing that I get to build off of someone’s energy that I can match and, and kind of build upon. But I remember, actually, I think one of the first times you and I ever had a conversation on like a social audio, it was actually that I think the discussion around not everyone’s built to be an entrepreneur. And I’m very loud about that, because I feel like we’ve buried that lead in, like, entrepreneurship became sexy, and then all of a sudden, people were like, wait a second, like, Do you know what it’s required to actually pull off being an entrepreneur, and it’s a skill set and approach to life. And you know, and the mental side of it, there’s a lot of that goes in there. But I also think having that kind of like Northstar, right, the passion you mentioned, like not enough people, I think, when we hear things like, you know, find, you know, find a job you love, and you love what you do, like I always looked at, it was like, I will find a way to love everything I do, because I’m going to give what I get out of it. And I lean into that. And I think part of that comes through not only in like some of the results, but David one of the things that I’ve I’ve really admired is that there’s also this idea of, I don’t need to be in one bucket, I can also impact more people I can be dedicated to, you know, making not only a difference in like the blockchain NFT side of the house, but also stay true to your craft. Right. I’ve, I’ve I felt that passion in many cases as well. You mentioned, one of you are kind of like, into NF T’s and, you know, being able to the social good component, right. And I, I’ve talked a lot about that on this podcast. But mainly because a lot of social good initiatives or projects have struggled to really understand where the NFT is more than just a donation ticket, right? Or another paths path to collect. I’m curious when you before we get into that, that part of that your project, when you first heard are attracted to NF Ts. Which part of your creative like masterpiece, were you first attracted to? Is it was the idea you could you could create your kind of the digital video producer side? Was it the spoken word side? Was it the well I can bring a lot of these all together, I can kind of tap in what was that first kind of like entry point aha for you kind of seeing the power of what I have to offer.

David Bianchi 23:52
I had no idea what I was getting into when I just like you just like so many other things that I’ve done in my life. Like I just like, I had this idea. Like I remember I was like I started shooting footage back in like 2004 against, you know conscientious objectors in Los Angeles. And I was like, I’m gonna make a feature length documentary and against the Bush administration in the American occupation of Iraq. I had no idea what I was doing. I had no idea it was going to take me four years. Had I known that there’s no way I would have jumped into making it. But the thing is, but I finished it and I got it done. It got distribution, right, I was not going to not complete the job. I just have that in my system. Now as it relates to blockchain. The thing that got me paying attention to blockchain was the pandemic, just like so many other people? Right. And I had been involved in cryptocurrency since 2017. So I was already aware of the underlying technology and I completely respected the values of the blockchain and I see what the blockchain is going to do for the world and is doing for the world. So my transition to understanding what a NFT is, which is metadata that’s mirrored on the blockchain can be manipulated, manipulated, broken or destroyed. That was easy for me to grasp. Right. And so I started doing some investigation. Ironically, it was medical oven, who bought the $69 million people that Wu’s headline is what caught my attention. Because it’s like Hollywood was shut down. I had done a big show for Tyler Perry. I went out to Tyler Perry studios during the pandemic. And, you know, they flew out private jet was this whole bubble thing and all that containment. That was an incredible experience. But that was lightning in a bottle to book a job during the pandemic, right. So was Hollywood coming back? I didn’t know. So I started poking around and figuring out how this NFT thing work. What are the communities at that point? It was only clubhouse. It was clubhouse and Twitter and discord. So I’m poking around and trying to figure out looking at RedBubble I’m looking at open sea. I’m figuring it all out. But I didn’t understand how I want to be identified. Because yes, I have done fine art exhibits as a painter and as an artist, but I’m not widely known as that. I’m known as an actor. I’m known somewhat as a filmmaker, and I’m known as a poet. Okay. Hmm. All right, let me look around. So at the time, march 2021, the blockchain limitations were 50 megabytes, 35 megabytes on most platforms, I found a platform that allowed for 250 megabytes. So then I was like, Oh, this is interesting. I’m like, I want a mental film. But it’s 500 megabytes, what am I going to do? So the thing is, desperation is the mother of creativity. I was reading something in a stoicism book today. Okay, right. And this is a great lesson for the audience, right? The the barriers in your life are only barriers, they may block your path, but they don’t block your drive your intention or your vision. So your intention, your drive, and your vision has to be bigger than the obstacles in front of you. And if they are, you will find a way. And so as a result of that, I was like, Okay, well, let me figure out, so I took this 1920 by 1080 file, I crushed it down to 960 by 540. And I dropped the bit rate down to like 6.7, or 6.8 megabits per second, and I was able to get it under 250. And then boom, that was the birth of the first ever spoken word film as NFT. And at the time, I was the one and probably the only artists that was minting an entire film as one of one art. I didn’t know what I was doing. But I use my hustle as a filmmaker, to go to clubhouses, I created thumbnails, I just created this grassroots marketing campaign. And I ended up connecting with an incredible human being named Noah Niles and Paula Moreno and then that heat Paulo introduced me to Baroque. And then you know, next thing you know, I’m in clubhouse rooms with 4000 people, and there’s not a dry in the room. Yep. Everybody’s crying. As I’m performing. This, I can’t breathe poem. Live in the room,

Brian Fanzo 27:30
I remember that I was one of those crying in that audience. I remember that. Verbatim. I know where I was, I know where I was in my house. Listening to that, during that moment, I and I have to thank you for that do because it also allowed during that time, you know, as a as an ally that realize that my silence was not okay. i There’s also places where I just needed to be able to connect with people and like to feel the pain, but also feel like that overall impact. And I remember you giving that and I will say it was also one of those moments from a social audio perspective, that like vulnerability and authenticity at a level that I don’t think we had, we had really seen online, right, like in that digital space. And I you know, I also love that you talked about like, you looked at like kind of the limitations and I gave a keynote for many years, it was just called limitations inspire creativity. Because I’ve always looked at that for anything, right? When it’s like, Wait, like, you can’t do certain things on Snapchat? Well, you can’t because they didn’t give you the original tools. But what can you do with what you know, and what you build. And, and I remember that’s also kind of what clubhouse felt like clubhouse was a social audio app where we talked about your NF T’s really became, you know, grass rooted and expanded. And there was no pinning it to the nest, there was no sharing of links. I mean, we were still DMing on IG, on the back end, right. It was, like, you know, that world was so interesting. Talk to us a little bit about that George Floyd won, and like, the raising of the funds, and also, you know, a lot of you, you mentioned people, right, but also like validation of, of your, your craft also being purchased in and amplified and highlighted by those that also looked at what people was doing, to me that also validated for a lot of people, the impact and the importance that this space can have on way more than just, you know, the crypto space as a whole.

David Bianchi 29:24
Yeah, you’re absolutely right. And thank you for for reminding me that I didn’t know that you were in those rooms. We never know who we’re touching. There’s something very unique about the NFT space. And I remember crying. I remember when when when the auction closed, and it didn’t sell for a ton of money, but it sold for about about the equivalent of $20,000 at the time. And these are films that I’ve spent hundreds of 1000s of dollars out of my own pocket over the course of two decades creating because my heart told me I need to create art of Islam. This isn’t my work. This is God’s work. I’m just skin and bones, you know, so I’m serving a higher purpose, and so forth. it to be actually auctioned and sold to one of the most sophisticated collector collectives in the entire world, who authenticated the people every day is, was mind blowing. I helped my girlfriend and we cried, I cried so deeply, I cried, and I cried out of sheer joy, that I finally felt like my art had found its home. Because if we look at who is in NF T’s and who’s in web three, young, tech savvy, sophisticated, influential, and hungry for art, those are the a lot of the primary attributes of people that live in web three. And those attributes don’t exist in the open mic communities. Those attributes don’t exist at the Film Festival parade, for the most part. And so that’s where I met people like Keith Grossman, who was a big bull on my work. That’s where I met. Like I said, I met people like feroce that’s where I met God rest his soul. You know, Wolf, you know, Jin, and I met, you know, incredible people like Andrew, Sean Swan said and Nicole Benham and all these, you know, Georgia Sinclair, and then obviously, you know, mundu are, for example, who’s one of my collectors, really, really interesting people. Oh, are these people. But whatever they’re doing, I want to be a part of it. Because not only was the work received in such a beautiful way, as a result of that influence, I ended up having communications with Lee marriage with Lee Merritt, who’s one of the most pronounced and important civil rights attorneys in the entire world. Well, yeah, for sure. Benjamin Crump. Whoa, this is who I so as a result of that sale, the film actually ended up getting to the George Floyd Memorial Foundation where I donated the proceeds. But it got to the Floyd family. And of all think about this, of all the content that the Floyd foundation got from that movement. They saw, I can’t breathe, and they said, David, this is the singularly most important piece of video that we have seen. And they played it at the one year memoriam of his passing in Minneapolis, and I, I’ve texted with Bridget Floyd. And this, I cried uncontrollably. I wept. I was broken. Because my yoke was wide open at this point. And I felt that this is where I belong. And the blockchain allows not only for our activism to exist, I can create work that is elevating the conversation, leading with heart first talking about social issues and human condition issues, and creating a legacy of art. That is, that is going to be all things David Bianchi performances, photographs, films, paintings, screenplays, short stories, all these things that I get to create in my lifetime, you know, and leave some sort of legacy. And I often say this last thought on this bed is that like, we can only take with us what we have become. That’s all we can take with us. And whatever we leave here is a side effect of who we have become.

Brian Fanzo 33:12
I love that. I love you, thank you for sharing that, that like that journey piece of it too, right? And like the attachment to, because I think the names of who, you know, saw that as early value are as important as part of this idea of like, when you soon as you said, like, I feel like this is where I belong. Like it gave me chills because that feeling for for so many of us, when you get that feeling in the space, it’s like, it’s an intersection that we didn’t know he was going to ever exist, be that we knew as possible. It’s something like when someone says it’s a ledger that allows you to put things online, it’s like, I’ve never looked at like an Excel spreadsheet. It was like, Oh, that’s my future right. Here like, but I also like that big impact, right. And like, especially that summer clubhouse, we kind of I feel like it was such a unique world that so many of us like I credited for me, helping me not feel alone in a life that I had traveled 40 weeks a year, my entire career, to being forced to be home and, you know, wrestle with you as a co parent and a lot of things like thankful that clubhouse allowed me, you know, connection and roots. But then there’s also just the idea of like, you’ve been continuing to innovate and, you know, we minted one of your pieces for our, our mint 365 collection and we’ll we’ll include that in the show notes. You’re getting joining us on Alpha Mondays with Shira Lazar and Anushka and, and other some just really great talents. You know, Keith Grossman, I was able to be a part of one of his very first clubhouse rooms and I remember I brought him in for oakum sages. Maybe the first time they ever spoke on clubhouse I was the one that brought them up only because I had a large club on there early on and then to see all this like, you know, impact that things are making. I’m curious For you as someone that, that has the, you know, the other side of the house, right the like, I mean, you have the you have the you have the talent as an actor, you have, you know, some success early on with NF T’s. You mentioned, like the that drive. I mean, the platforms that you’re using art, you’re not just going back to the well, you’re not just tapping in the fact Hey, I built this great network, there’s great collectors that hold my pieces. When you when you’re looking at that innovating. How do you look at that as far as inspiring other spoken word artists, others that maybe haven’t found their home yet? How do you look at like, your desire to innovate and continue to evolve with also the need the desire to kind of hopefully inspire others to kind of join us on this path.

David Bianchi 35:48
You have to be inspired by the technology. That’s the most important thing people ask me all the time. David, how do I get into NF Ts? Can you help me get into NFT’s especially in the Hollywood community, a lot of people want to be a part of the cash grab, right? And the first thing I say to them, I’m like, Do you know what the blockchain is? And are you inspired by the blockchain? Because if you’re not, there’s no way you’re ever going to be able to be inspired by what an NFT is and what it can do for you and what it will do for your future. Right. And so I say that because everything that I’ve tried to do and I continue to do and successfully have done an NFT’s is leaning into the edge of the technology, minting an NFT at 249 megabytes that as ERC 721 and march 2021. Nobody was doing that unheard of right. And then boom to the third spoken word film, the third cinema film that I’ve mentioned in the creative Limited Edition assets. And it became the first film to have a red carpet premiere in the metaverse at the makerspace gallery in decentraland. We did 2000 pull ups in attendance. Nobody was doing that. Okay, cool. And then being the only artists on superare, that’s using theatrical level cinema as one of one art while keeping it under 50 megabytes, right? Pushing, pushing, pushing, pushing the boundaries of technology. To me, that’s the most important thing, right? Not only am I interested in creating sophisticated work that is stand out, I also want to be able to create work that the blockchain archaeologists, when they do show up and look at my work, I’ll be much older, then they will look back at my work and not only see the quality of the art, they’ll see what it meant technologically, at the time. Right. So there’s that component. And so that sort of is a good segue to what you were just talking about, which is the census collection, and the census collection as a direct result of leaning into the technology. You know, I wanted to create an NFC collection that that led with poetry, but also tapped into the pushing the boundaries of what the technology can offer. And no, I guess, October of 2021, I had this idea that I wanted to create a poetic collection that was inspiring and uplifting, to sort of break the trend of what I had done in poetry and NF Ts. And so the vision of this is to give audiences an opportunity to listen and to pause. That was really, really the number one thing that I wanted to do. And so my vision initially was to write poems that would be sort of injected into some sort of AI engine, and then the words would be sort of broken apart through data, mathematical sets, and then punch out its own piece of art. That didn’t happen because the technology wasn’t there. But I ended up speaking to Lisa at a sink NFT NYC, October of 2021. I told her my idea, she says, Well, we have a technology engine that might be able to handle close to what you’re talking about doing. So senses is the result of that. So I wrote 100 poems that are inspired by the five human senses that are uplifting. I will look around for the right lead artists that ended up connecting with this gentleman doggone Tamir, who’s a technologist and a code, a very experienced code code writer. And he wants to come on board and he creates fractal art, will fractals actually exist in nature? So that’s a tethering to the to the to the human senses, like, Okay, that’s interesting. I was like, Can we create art that’s inspired by my voice? And we went back and forth? We agreed, yes. So we recorded a wave recordings of my haikus. Took mathematical datasets from those high from those wave recordings, use those mathematical datasets to inspire the code that creates the generative fractal art that is actually the visual component of the collection.

Brian Fanzo 39:26
Wow, how did you even I miss mesmerized on how that connect how you make that connection of like, allowing each one to inspire them both and like multiple directions. I don’t even think I would even approach that. How does that like, how do you wrap your head around that kind of innovation?

David Bianchi 39:42
Right? So in my head, I was like this is possible. All I need is I need an engineer and a talented technician and a talented artist that can help realize the vision. Right? And so I just shopped around and wanted to find someone who was tethered and aligned to what I wanted to do and luckily Duggan was that So God was able to basically take patterns, mathematical patterns that were found in the wave recordings, and then take those mathematical patterns and inject them into the the angles and the structure of the fractals. Now within the collection, as you just showed is various colors. And each color represents a different sense, right. So when I’m creating this, I wanted everything to be connected. So blue, for example, represents sight, because the most beautiful thing we see is the sky. Green represents sound, the most beautiful thing we hear is mother nature. Pink is taste the color of our taste buds. This orange is smell the color of our nasal cavity. And then White is touched. Because it’s children, we always reach for the clouds. So and then each one of these has its own distinct style of fractal layers of a fractal art. So everything is very specific. So now let’s take it another layer further. It’s async music blueprints, right? And so I worked. Now I needed music, because I wanted it to be a healing audio visual experience because poetry and score for me, it’s like salt and pepper, right? With poetic films, every every piece of my poetry has a score. So I wanted it to have a score. So I work with please. And thank you who’s a well known EDM DJ, worked with Blau and Don Diablo, blah, blah, he produced 15 tracks that are binaural, right that live in what’s called the solfeggio frequencies. In other words, it’s a series of frequencies that are proven to heal the mind, body and spirit and connect to the chakras. So now you look at this NFC, you’ve got one audio poetry layer of uplifting poetry, which is generative, because you don’t know which one of 100 You’re gonna get, then you’ve got one of 15 healing musical tracks. And then you’ve got eight fractal generative art layers to create a collection of 1000 ones of ones. Wow.

Brian Fanzo 41:55
And that’s what we have in our in our collection, our Min 365, which, you know, I loved that, you know, and the men experience is pretty amazing as well, I actually, I screen recorded the men’s experience when it was happening, because I thought it was, you know, that dynamic and unique. You know, and I appreciate also the, you know, I think, right now I feel like a lot of, you know, from an NF t, when people talk about like the NF T’s that they’re creating, I think a lot of it is, you know, and rightfully so in many cases, it’s copycat in the sense of like, we’re seeing what works, and we’re kind of building on it. This is, you know, it also takes, like, I will say, David, like, when I first heard someone mentioned that you were doing you were doing this, it didn’t capture me until I heard you talk about it. And I think that is such a key aspect. So I’m curious, for those that are like listening, like, did you identify yourself as like a content creator? Like I mean, because the way that you show up on spaces, you are very active, like for those that you are, you know, you’re acting in a show that you’re, you’re doing all this NF T, but you’re also very, very active in the community on in all kinds of different ways. How do you kind of like prioritize the need, and the desire to kind of like show up until the stories support others? I’ve seen you in plenty of rooms. I think even this morning, you were in the I think rug radio, we were both in there this morning listening right. And, and to me that stands out like I I often say like I want to align with people that are just as much about being on the mic as they are about, you know, not being on a mic and supporting others that are great in this space. How do you prioritize? And understand like how much that role is connected to you as this? You know, I went to buy it, within minutes of hearing you tell a story versus just kind of going to a website? How do you connect those dots? You know,

David Bianchi 43:42
I think it’s Thank you. And I think it’s important that and I said this one, when I first had the experience with I can breathe now fast towards where we are now. I told my community I’m not going anywhere. To me blockchain and multimedia art for me is the future and it’s my future where you dedicate your time is where you dedicate your life. Right? So if I know that to be true, and I fundamentally believe that the blockchain is going to be tethered to every single thing that we do as it relates to intellectual property and also record data and record keeping, I know that the blockchain is going to be part of everything. So if I know that to be true, it’s going to be to my interest to keep pushing forward and get this of all the human beings that have invested in my art, if I decide to hang up the phone now that’s called a rug poll, ladies and gentlemen, it’s called a fucking rug pool. And I’m not going to rug pull the incredible human beings that have stood off my work that I’ve invested in my work their hard earned Aetherium in my work, to just walk away and hang up the hat this is too important what we’re up to. So I love being part of these morning alphas. I love being a part of this stuff. You know, I was just blessed with the honor NFT NFC now just nominated me as one of the top NFC creators in the world. Yeah. And to me, it’s a testament of the work that I’ve put into the work that I continue to put in. You know, NFC now said that senses is pushing the boundaries of art and blockchain.

Brian Fanzo 45:02
Wow. And I mean, you are, you’re leading the way in many facets there. And I loved seeing that your name was one of the top 100. And we’ve been very blessed you many of our guests have been, you know, we’re on that list as well. And I also know, there’s a lot of people that are listening to this that are athletes, authors, speakers, they have like that full time. How are you looking at this? Because, you know, you are still Yo yo, with with TV shows the acting side of the house? How are you looking at it from like a team dynamic? And like, you mentioned your community, you know, you’re not going anywhere. But let’s face it, there’s gonna be opportunities that are coming up and in other areas that are going to pull away some of your time and attention. How are you looking at that from like a scale and like a team growth perspective?

David Bianchi 45:47
Now? It’s a great question. And I mentioned earlier offline, that I use Gary Vee as a great example. You know, everything that is V friends is all a result of Gary Vaynerchuk. Right, Gary is the lead guy. But there’s a lot of stuff that’s going on behind the scenes, because he has a team that is empowered that that he trusts that he can lean on. And so for me, it’s fundamentally the same, you know, I’m not going to pass up on huge opportunities, right? If, when a network television shows his David, we want to put you on our show, that’s a big deal. I don’t care what anybody says like being able to act on TV, even if it’s one line, yeah, Mr. Smith, your coffee, that’s a big deal. So I’m not going to pass up on those opportunities, right. And so I need to be able to build an infrastructure around me that could sustain the equator, if and when I need to be an absence from these projects and sort of being the the coach, as it were, I don’t like to be a boss, I’d like to be a coach, or speaking out of econ, or performing on the mainstage at Cannes, Lion, for example, or whatever, you know, thought leadership stuff that I do as a frontman, I need to have a team behind me that that can be able to be my voice when I invoice less, for example. And so it’s really, really important that we that we understand how to delegate, and we understand how to let go of our babies, while we’re not home. You know, and I know you do the same thing. You know, it’s like, we were only we’re only one person, we can only do so much. And

Brian Fanzo 47:15
it’s a lot harder said than done. Right? I I’m letting you know, the team here, like we launched the podcast, with, you know, there was one and a half of us. And that was mostly running my speaking business right now. There’s 10 of us. And, you know, even you know, just just in the last couple of days, I’ve had to be nudged a couple of times, you know, I’m coming through COVID that, you know, I got the NFT NYC po app of getting COVID. And, and there was a couple times that reminder, like, Brian, you don’t have to do all those things. You don’t have to know all those who have a team that is there. How are you like that? Is that is harder said than done? But it’s also, how are you finding kind of like the right, I hate to say the right people, but the people that you’re like, you know what this would build a trust? Let’s, let’s establish those connections, are there? Are there certain things that people that are listening can because that’s probably one of the most popular questions we’re getting right now. The first question is I brought on in, but what would my team look like? And then the second part is, like, where do I find these people? How are you kind of addressing that?

David Bianchi 48:12
So it’s a good question. And there’s something to be said about, like, whatever it is that you’re doing. Artists, anybody in this audience, keep in mind, whatever you say yes. To invariably says no to something else. Yes. Right, indiscriminately. So you have to under be cautious about what you say yes to, I have had to be more and more cautious about what I say yes to, who do I want to show up for? Where do I want to tell my story? You know, what countries? Do I want to go to what blockchain events Am I willing to participate in? Etc, etc. Right? So there’s that component. Now as far as the team is concerned, you know, I have a lot of constituents that I’ve been working with for a very long time and web two as a filmmaker. And as an actor, and creatives. I would rather take someone from web two, who I know love and trust and take them through a crash course in web three so they can get up to my speed, then try to meet somebody in web three that may think that they know too much, right? Because there’s also that component, right? Yeah. Well, I want to be friends before I’m collaborators. Yes. The other thing, then this is, I think the most important components of this is that whether it’s someone like I said, my one two constituents, or what three constituents, its energy, its energy, everything that you are, is a magnet to attract or oppose and who you show up for yourself, how you show up for yourself every day will be an indication of the individuals that you repel and the individuals that you attract, right and have a an have a good barometer for bullshit ism. Right, you got to be able to suss people out and that comes with experience, unfortunately, or fortunately. But I think that energy is the most important thing that I invariably am blessed to attract incredible Human beings, and I measure my collaborations by how inspired they are by the vision that I have?

Brian Fanzo 50:09
Well, that’s a good one right there. Because I think that I mean, that through line, right, I think that also leads through the, you know, the cash grab, or web three, one of these, you know, making claims that, you know, they can’t claim and, or can’t back up. And, you know, I think that’s part of the beauty of the blockchain. Blockchain doesn’t lie, right? We don’t we, the receipts are there.

David Bianchi 50:28
And you know, and I’m not in the Senate, and I’m not here, and I never have been here for a cash grab, like, right, if I wanted to do a cash crop, I would have dropped, I could have dropped the PFP and put all my energy behind an animal of the week, you know, and done it anonymously. If I wanted to, I wouldn’t, you know, I wouldn’t be creating experiential, experimental, poetic audio visual experiences on the blockchain, if cash grab was my MO, now, I want to, I want to be able to to fertilize the soil. I want to create work in the blockchain that’s not only going to be respected by the technologists, but also art that’s going to be respected by the institutions.

Brian Fanzo 51:06
And I think the third one, and that I feel like it’s weaved in there. And this is actually where I wanted to kind of bring us all back around, you also are not shy about the idea of using this to make a greater impact. And so a lot of the things that you’ve been doing or raising funds for things that are much bigger than, than the two of us. Talk to us a little bit about that. And like, for me, that’s the that that is the true Northstar of what this all can become is that we can really rally together, you know, the mantra of the podcast is pretty simple, we are greater than me. And you embody that I felt it in a lot of the things that you’ve created. And you’ve done that in many ways where I think there’s other initiatives that maybe have the same passion and desire to have an impact, but they haven’t had the success. And I say success as like, the true impact of what the art is brought to life. How are you looking at that in the future, and maybe inspiring others to be like, you, if you want to make the impact? We have to go all in in these ways. I really, I commend you for that piece. You know, and I know that how much that means to you, in the sense of what you’re creating are helping open up doors pull up to people to the table that haven’t had at the table. And ultimately, in many ways, start conversations that just haven’t happened and has been far too long that they haven’t been served up. So give us some of that as we kind of pull this episode together. I’m just loving every minute for

David Bianchi 52:27
Sure. And thanks for asking. Yeah, I social impact is a big part of what I do. And because they create art that is about social consciousness, whether it be about racism, injustice, overpopulated prisons, whether it be about gentrification, you know how we have to do better for inner city youth, for example, whether it be about climate issues, you know, whatever I’m speaking about in my art. It’s tethered to a social issue. And so for me, it’s a little it’s morally bankrupt, to not partition some of those funds to some of those causes. Because there’s so much concentration of wealth in the cryptocurrency community that I say literally, if you’re not giving a portion of your proceeds to real world, philanthropic efforts, shame on you, and I’ll tell you to your face, fucking shame on you. Shame on you. You know, because whether you’re typing in your church, or whether you’re tithing in communities, you can each, we can each one, teach one, and we can break off 5% 10% 8%, figure it out, build it into your business model, even if it’s just you being a part of the human experience, you know, even if you’re doing it for selfish reasons, like tax write offs, whatever it is, if you haven’t break some bread, right? So to me, that’s important. The other piece of that is onboarding 501 C threes into the values of blockchain. So I have worked with a couple nonprofits and actually worked with them to create with a platform called and given portal so that they can now receive up to 80 Different cryptocurrencies and donations, right. And so this is also important. So it’s not just about donating money. I want to work with organizations that want to work with me from an optics perspective that want to go to campaign with me on these drops, but also understand the values of blockchain and that are forward thinking. So it’s a multi sided die when it comes to how I I approached the sort of philanthropic philanthropic efforts, but I really think that the most important thing that I that that lands with this is just leading through inspiration, as you said earlier, because you know, so many art drops, PFP drops, fine art drops, they don’t get sold off the back of oh, we’re gonna give away to nonprofits. Most collectors liked that idea, but they’re not buying your art because you’re giving a little bit of money away. They’re acquiring your art because they believe in you. Like if I buy a fancy piece of art, I’m buying it because I know love it. Interest fans Oh, and the same thing applies with David Bianchi, the fact that they can be a part of a social mission is just a fringe benefit of owning of David Bianchi piece of art. Right. And so my mission statement, I think, is clear. We as leaders, can lead in blockchain, but we can also lead in the real world, because also what that does is it evangelizes the blockchain in communities that otherwise would not have heard of demand chain. So I think we could do a little bit of it all, I’m building a building a pretty robust company right now. And I, in my model, I’ve said that I want to do 8% of all net profits, I want to dedicate to educating bipoc children and technologies in the value of blockchain, and do IRL educational seminars, this is something that I want to do. So it’s really, really important for me to do that, you know, and my bills are paid and my needs are met. So, I just think it’s really, really important that if we leave from a place of generosity, that the universe will pay it back tenfold. And that goes back to energy, and all those things I was talking about earlier.

Brian Fanzo 56:04
And you know, and just so you know, it from, you know, the reputation for you, and that commitment, it precedes you, and I think that’s a testament to your ability to, to show up to be taking the actions on those and also, that you bring that energy every time you open the mic every time that you’re a part of these different communities. And I think that’s like the beauty, I’m so glad that you were able to get you on the podcast. And, you know, also, I think that’s also the beauty of, you know, being able to share, you know, stages together, you know, on Twitter spaces and, and get to know each other’s missions and things that we have going on. And, you know, like you when we when we went to start this podcast, I I literally looked at Drew you and said, We can drop a PFP project and probably sell out today. Or we build a piece of content that amplifies and builds trust over a long period of time. And we build something much bigger than that and and hearing where you align and that thing, it just reconfirms a lot of the things that we’ve been committed to now, you know, seven and a half months in not missed a day of this podcast. And, you know, for me, the the driving force is that greater good and greater mission of bringing this to the space. So, David, I’ll let you know any final words, and we’ll put all your links and everything in the show notes. So everybody will be able to click and see, you know, a lot of the great things that you’re creating, but I’ll let you kind of have the final words.

David Bianchi 57:21
Well, I think I just hope that whatever you heard here today, I hope it came across as honest. And I hope that you’re inspired by my story, and that you’re willing to join the journey. I hope that I inspired someone in this room to break out of their shell, to become the entrepreneur that they don’t know that they already are. Because time isn’t linear. I hope that I offered a seat of consciousness for people to maybe look at a new way to approach life, art and technology. We are a part of something genuinely revolutionary. And it’s the I say it’s the Renaissance not because it’s a catchphrase. It’s the Renaissance because it is exactly what the early Renaissance was, which is the marriage of high culture, fine art, technology, and finance. All those things combined is what makes this movement in blockchain and NF t’s the new renaissance. So don’t take it lightly. Go ahead first, make friends and lead with your heart

Brian Fanzo 58:29
couldn’t have said it better. I love it. David thanks so much for for jumping on with us. You know for all those that are listening you know as always, we will be here again tomorrow and you know, take action my friends this is this is action oriented if you’ve if you’ve listened to all of these different pieces, you know David leading the way through the actions he’s taking and it’s so easy for so many to talk about it. Unfortunately we don’t have enough that are doing it and all of you can kind of step up and hopefully take on that mantle and and will continue to kind of push this forward. So until tomorrow make it a great day. Cheers, everybody. Cheers. And friends. Don’t forget, mark your calendars October 9 through the 11th in San Diego, California. That’s right crypto, a business conference join entrepreneurs, marketers and creators at the only web three conference you’ll need to attend. Brought to you by Social Media Examiner. And of course our goal much like here at the podcast is to not only keep it simple, but educate, inspire and motivates so make sure you get your tickets at social media examiner.com/nf t 365 and hope to see you in San Diego.

Kevin Sturmer 59:38
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